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You’d think we were a bunch of girls or something…

- Originally published June 2, 2006

GirlTalk blog posted on chivalrous manhood which is no longer available, that I can find. Carolyn Mahaney listed ways her son will strive to show honor to ladies including:

  • Open her doors
  • Stand when she enters the room
  • Pull out her chair
  • Give up your seat for her
  • Carry heavy objects for her
  • Retrieve dropped items for her

Such (seemingly) insignificant acts like opening doors and walking street-side are not just courteous gestures of a gentleman recognizing a lady. These things are a reflection of the God-ordained relationship between men and women. How do you respond when a man tries to do one of the above to/for you? Do you tolerate it, blushing and embarrassed? Do you tell him “No, it’s fine. I can do it myself”? Or do you accept the gesture gracefully and thank him (perhaps even call him “sir”)?

The issue here is not if we are physically capable of lifting something or opening our own door (though when we cannot, it is even more important that some men take the initiative to be gentleman!). It is not about whether we feel deserving or if the man offering is always a perfect gentleman–this is about accepting the respect of gentleman and enjoying our place as ladies. Let men open doors for you. Not only allow them, but praise them when they show you honor.

I remember a time recounted in Quest for the High Places when I was rollerblading. Somehow I tripped and crashed, scraping my leg. There was a young man with me who was apologizing and berating himself for letting me fall.

“It’s fine! It’s not your fault!” I kept assuring him. Finally I asked, “Why do you even care that I fell? I’ve been banged up lots worse than this with my brothers and such.” His reply silenced me.

“Because,” he said as he looked me straight in the eye, “you are a lady.”

Gretchen’s father and older brother also provide a great example of chivalry. After a few reprimands for hopping out of the car before one of them could open my door, I learned to wait. It didn’t matter if there were three doors to open–Sunday morning Mr. Glaser would go to all sides to let out the women in front of the church. I didn’t open doors. I didn’t carry anything heavy, not even my own bags. I barely even drove! The day we were decorating for the wedding I wanted to run back to the Glasers to pick up more reception items and a gentleman was sent along to drive me and carry all the heavy boxes.

For any men who might read this, please do not grow weary in being chivalrous. You have my appreciation and respect. (And if any of you have some tips or thoughts on the subject you want to share with our readers, please contact me!)

Don’t we all feel cherished and melt inside when a gentleman gives us flowers or helps us with our coat? Who doesn’t enjoy a door being opened or a heavy bag being carried, whether from a brother, friend, or stranger? Seek to be worthy of the honor. Enjoy it! You’d think we were girls or something.

3 Comments »

  Sophie wrote @

Thanks for this! I love having a guy open the door for me, etc :) , but should we, as girls, also have that servant heart and be looking out to do this for them too? I would never wait for a guy to open a door for me, I’d open it, and then hold it for him. Maybe this is because I live in a big city (London, England), and doing little things like this really make people’s day, because it rarely happens now. I don’t know, I suppose I’m looking for a guy who just looks for ways to help someone out, regardless of their sex. But then again, I’ve never met a ‘chivalrous’ man, so I’m really just speculating.
Sorry this is so rambling…

  Elizabeth H. (Russia) wrote @

I am mainly in agreement. I have to say, though…I have seen this used by guys for less than honorable purposes. I love chivalry, but I would rather he be rather clumsy yet sincere, than charming and smooth.

But I agree that in general it is about the roles that God created us for. I love seeing little boys who have already been taught to help their mommies.

And yes, we have our own responsibility to be worthy of this honor.

  Natalie (Nyquist) Ference wrote @

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 7:45 AM | Permalink
Wonderful, wonderful post, Natalie!!! Thank the Lord for the men who ARE gentlemen!! It seems there are so few these days. I am so thankful for those who are and respect them greatly!

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 8:34 AM | Permalink
The stats for Monday & Tuesday were through the roof? Hmm, yes, very puzzling I try to restrain myself, but…I end up checking over and over “just in case” you’ve finished and posted the full wedding report!

Your post today — so true. I got “the lady treatment” as my friend and I call it, from a guy this year. At first, it shocked me. I’m not at all used to it. At first, it was almost uncomfortable. Then it made me feel cherished, though he’s only and friend and nothing more. Mostly, it made me take care to be sure my behavior is always that of a lady, so I’m worthy of his chivalry.

I love being a girl!

~Lois

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Susan
Posted June 2, 2006 at 9:32 AM | Permalink
Such a good post, Natalie! Especially in a day and age when the distinctions between men and women are so blurred, chivalry is a beautiful (and rare) thing to experience. Thank you for giving some examples from your own experiences. It is always encouraging to know that there are men out there who still follow the chivalric code! The poor men in our society are really caught between a rock and a hard place on this issue, since if they are chivalrous they risk being labelled “male chauvinist pigs.”

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Jessica
Posted June 2, 2006 at 11:15 AM | Permalink
Ditto to the “I try to restrain myself, but…I end up checking over and over “just in case” you’ve finished and posted the full wedding report!” That was me too!

And great post, Natalie! Mr. Glaser sounds so nice…even though I’ve never met a man that chivalrous, it’s nice to know that there ARE some out there! Last night when I walked into Wal-Mart and the door opened automatically…the thought crossed my mind that automatic doors weren’t exactly a help to chivalry!

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sarah
Posted June 2, 2006 at 11:36 AM | Permalink
Well, I do have a few thoughts. First, good post. Second, although I do very much appreciate when guys hold doors or carry heavy things for me, I don’t think such actions are God-ordained. It is great to be helpful and to care for ladies, but sometimes I have seen guys get carried away. If the girl mistake is to refuse all help, the guy mistake is to refuse to let girls do something if they want to. I hope that guys wouldn’t stop holding doors for girls just because some are rude – but if a girl wants to carry her own stuff, the guy should let her. I mean, the purpose is to help the girl, right – not to etch specific gender duties in stone?

Of course, I have only refused such apparently chivalrous assistance when I was in a vulnerable situation. The rest of the time I am delighted to have guys do things for me. Just as you said, it makes me feel special.

Final thought: I thought Gretchen only had younger brothers. That is funny, if you thought Will was older than her.

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 12:11 PM | Permalink
Thank you for this post, Natalie! =)
Last year, I had the privilege of working with a guy who was quite the gentleman. When I opened my own door, or just stood there when he opened it, he would tell me it was his job to open the door and that I was to go through first. =) I’m still getting used to having my brothers hold doors, and other gentlemanly things. It is rare, though, to meet a true gentleman!

Sarah

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Prairie Girl
Posted June 2, 2006 at 12:21 PM | Permalink
Chivalry is an interesting topic of conversation. Is chivalry cultural? Is it strictly an American and European type of concept? Do other cultures have different ways of showing this value of women, or is chivalry an outflow of Christianity? I would love to hear some thoughts and observations!

Since I often wear a dress, guys usually open the doors of stores and I always make sure to thank them. I appreciate when men and boys open doors for me or help carry things, but I am rather unused to it! I guess being much older than all my siblings, I have always carried everything, I’ve moved the furniture, I’m used to taking care of others. It’s a little odd to have someone do those things for me, however I do like it:) I feel cared for and honored for simply being a woman. Praise God for chivalrous men and may we learn to be thankful and gracious women!

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 1:47 PM | Permalink
Excellent post, Natalie! Thank you for reminding me to encourage men to be men by myself being a lady.

LM

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ShelleyMariee
Posted June 2, 2006 at 2:45 PM | Permalink
A very good post, indeed! It is such a blessing when one runs into those kind of men:-)

I was actually thinking about the door-opening topic recently. I realized that often when a man does open the door for me, though I am really very appriciative, I sometimes feel funny saying, “Thank you,” so I say it quietly, my eyes looking ahead. Earlier in the comments, Prairie Girl said, “may we learn to be thankful and gracious women!” I realized the “thank you” is much more genuine when I make it very clear that I am thankful by smiling and looking at the person’s face, not the horizon!

That was a good reminder to be thankful Natalie:-)

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Erin M in MO
Posted June 2, 2006 at 3:02 PM | Permalink
About ten days ago my brother and I went to a baseball game together. After we’d parked, we were walking to the stadium when suddenly he says, “Oops! My bad!” and stops walking. I turned around to see what was wrong, only to find him to have circled behind me and that he was now walking street-side. He apologized, and when I said I had wondered what had happened to him, he said, “Well, I couldn’t exactly cross *in front* of you, so I had to stop and let you go ahead to get to your other side.” Wow! I guess maybe I hadn’t paid attention recently, but that incident really stood out in my mind to make me proud of my brother.

An earlier commenter posted about automatic doors. My 16-year-old brother once gave me a hearty laugh when we approached an automatic door and he said, “Watch this. I’m going to open that door for you.” He stepped close enough to activate the motion sensor, then stepped back and motioned me through as the door swung wide. That might be a little extreme, but we both had a good time about it!

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 4:52 PM | Permalink
Great article. I have been thinking on this recently and realized that even though “I can do it myself” I should let the men open the door or carry stuff for me etc.
~Jaclynn

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 5:15 PM | Permalink
Should we wait for the man to be chivalruos? Should we step back and MAKE them open the door? Or just be extra thankful and vocal about it when a man is?

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Rose
Posted June 2, 2006 at 5:16 PM | Permalink
Thanks for such an encouraging post. There are a few guys in my church who have been taught that kind of thing. I always enjoy it when a boy opens the door or gives up his chair if there is no where else to sit. All the boys in my church are also constantly reminding each other, “never hit a girl.”

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 5:38 PM | Permalink
I can certainly relate to some of you girls… As the oldest, I’m used to doing it all myself and being completely responsible for carrying or moving things around (I don’t have brothers to carry heavy things for me or help me move stuff…;/). It does feel a little strange to have a boy open doors or help me carry things, but I think that’s because I’m not used to it. There are so few gentlemen out there, it seems. It’s such an encouragement to hear of boys who are still chivalrous in our very modern contemporary society. It’s a breath of fresh air when boys treat me in such a gentlemanly manner. (I respect them for it greatly.)

-Whitney

p.s. Shelleymariee, thanks for the reminder. I’ll try harder to look boys in the eye to express my gratitude when they hold doors for me. Erin m in mo, I really enjoyed hearing about the automatic door incident:)!

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 6:58 PM | Permalink
Great comments y’all and a great topic, Natalie! Thankfully, I am a priveledged girl that has become accustomed to boys/men being very polite and courteous to me. I rarely open my own door, move heavy objects, etc. But, I have noticed that when men do these things for me, it urges me to be “worthy” of the title “lady”. It is a very high calling and the title has an aura about it that suggests the highest in a sweet, delicate spirit. It is my prayer that I will always be a lady in every aspect of the term, and appreciate the men God has placed in my life that treat me as such. Thank you for the wonderful post!

*** Yes, I would have been one of those that hit this site several times (patiently ) waiting the whole story!

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 7:21 PM | Permalink
Thank you for the post!

I feel very honored when men open doors and are mannerly to me as a lady. It makes me feel safer and it builds my trust in them. It makes me want to strive to be a real lady and to be “worthy of the honor” as Natalie so perfectly put it.

Thank you for this post! And men,
please do not be discouraged when you run across a girl who doesn’t want doors opened, heavy things carried for you. . .
keep on being the gentlemen you should be!!!!!!!!! – there are a few of us ladies out there who really appreciate your kindnesses and feel honored when you respect us!

HLH

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Anonymous
Posted June 2, 2006 at 8:09 PM | Permalink
I learned a lot about letting guys be gentlemen this last semester. I rode with two girls and a guy every Wednesday to AWANA. The guy always sat in the back; I would feel badly and try to make him sit in the front, but after talking with my roommate about it, I realized I need to let him be a gentleman. I e-mailed him and said that even though I’m terrible at showing it, I do appreciate his actions.

Liz

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Jenna
Posted June 2, 2006 at 8:23 PM | Permalink
Great post Natalie, and I enjoyed reading the above comments.
Like many of you, I too am the oldest child; accustomed to domineering projects and forging ahead to the front. I used to struggle with the difference between my capabilities, and letting guys be courteous towards me. It boils down to pride and robs gentlemen of the joy and eagerness to serve the fairer gender. I do NOT want to be accused of that.
Thanks for the encouragement. I’ll be sure to have a keener awareness of those rare modern knights, graciously accept their service, and be a more grateful maiden.

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Rachel
Posted June 2, 2006 at 8:31 PM | Permalink
Great post Natalie!

About a month ago, I had a man open the door for me, and he was lame! I was very humbled to say the least, but very grateful. I wrote about it on my blog because I was so astonished, so I’ll just put the link below, and not fill up your comments box. I come from a very “chivalrous” household, with three brothers, and still I was so amazed that this man opened the door for me!

http://rachammett.blogspot.com/2006/05/gentleman.html

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Anne
Posted June 3, 2006 at 5:41 AM | Permalink
I see such a *lack* of gentlemen today, so when a young boy or a young man (or even an older man!) does something gentlemanly, I quietly smile to myself and thank him outloud! I always include a “sir” because it’s just as important to be a lady as it is for them to be gentlemen.

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M
Posted June 3, 2006 at 7:44 AM | Permalink
Great Post Natalie! Since I am an only child I never had the previlage of having brothers around. So the first time a man opened the door for me I didn’t know how to respond.However I was able to see that he was trying to be a gentlemen so I was able to graciously thank him.

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Anonymous
Posted June 3, 2006 at 9:28 AM | Permalink
I wish more men would open doors for women! My Dad is teaching my brother how to be a Godly gentleman, and I will tell you what a joy it is to have a brother open a door for me! Once i was at sunday school and I asked a young man to help me with my boxes (I five in my arms!) , do you know what he said! He said help yourself!!!!!!!!! This was at sunday school!! It amazes me how we are losing good men in this world!

Ashley M.

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Katie
Posted June 3, 2006 at 12:14 PM | Permalink
Ashley, that’s awful!

Thank you Jenna, for your sweet reminder. That’s very true, and something that I need to work on also.

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Anonymous
Posted June 3, 2006 at 12:57 PM | Permalink
ShelleyMariee, thanking guys (audibly!) who hold doors is something I’ve been trying to work on, too. lol! As another oldest-of-several, it can be hard to remember to step aside and not just take the lead, but as my brothers get older, I try to remember to treat them as young men, not just little brothers!

Here’s a question I’ve never quite settled with myself: When you come to a store with two sets of doors, and the guy opens the first one, should you step aside and wait for him to open the next one, also, or charge ahead and hold the next one for *him*? I asked my brother, but he didn’t give me a very concise answer!

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Amanda
Posted June 3, 2006 at 1:03 PM | Permalink
^This is me again

One of my most fun memories of guys opening doors was at a local college when I was hauling a HUGE bag of books out for my aunt. This rather un-gentlemanly looking guy exclaimed about the amount of stuff I was carrying and positively leaped in front of me and against the door to get it opened. I always look back on that and tell myself–”there is a latent seed of chivalry even within the long-haired baggy-pants guys of today–maybe hope is not all lost!” lol!

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sarah
Posted June 3, 2006 at 3:55 PM | Permalink
lol at the double-door scenario. I suppose it depends on the particular situation, but I try to use common sense. If the guy is holding the first door, I will just push open the second door and hold it for him – usually this gentlemanly sort of fellow will dash through quickly and “take” it to hold for that last fraction of a second. lol again… I suppose it’s all in the choreography.

If I really know the guy, I might wait for him to get the second door.

If he looks discomfited at me holding the second door, I give some sort of light comment, such as, “I know; you would be in two places at once if you could.” Or something similar.

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Nicole
Posted June 3, 2006 at 4:54 PM | Permalink
I think that, for me, who loves anything heroic, a gentlemanly action on the part of anyone makes my day. I have one little friend that I know—he’s 12—and I was his teacher in a Children’s Program a few years ago. Since, we’ve become good friends. Recently, I think his manhood has been bursting in upon him, and I am astonished how gentlemanly he has become. Last time we had a visit, he wouldn’t let me carry anything of my own, he checked on me every few minutes, watched my water glass to make sure it was full and got up to refill it if necessary, and, afterwards, cleared my seat in the car and held my seat belt out for me with a flourish. It was as if he didn’t recognize that he was doing it at all, but it came naturally.
He’s gone from being just a little kid who I taught in a Children’s Program….to being a gentleman, and to warming my heart whenever we’re together.
I think that guys everywhere should practice such chivalry. It truly delights a woman’s soul, and builds up the soul of the man.
Thank you for this post, Natalie!

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Jessica
Posted June 3, 2006 at 5:06 PM | Permalink
I’ve wondered about the double-door thing too…or, if a man holds a door open for you and it opens into a line (such as at a restaurant or something), do you just take the place ahead of him at the line or do you step aside and let him go ahead of you? I feel bad when I do the former because I’m taking his place in line, but if that’s part of his chivalry in surrendering his place in line to me…I’m confused!

The incident you mentioned was encouraging, Amanda…you’re right, “maybe hope is not all lost”!

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kalipay
Posted June 3, 2006 at 6:11 PM | Permalink
the chivalry you all talk about is definitely American… or at least not Asian, which is where i grew up. there just isn’t really even the concept, much less the resulting action. it has taken a bit of conscious effort for me since moving to the USofA to allow the men to open doors and etc because i am so unused to doing it.

about double doors, i generally wait, and let them open the second door also. this is partly from personal preference, partly on recommendation from a few close friends i have asked.

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Anna Naomi
Posted June 3, 2006 at 7:25 PM | Permalink
I enjoyed this post! Chilvary is such a wonderful thing when it’s put into practice! My wonderful older brother always opens doors for us, and it’s so delightful to be able to walk through the door he’s holding and feel like a lady!

Also, there’s a training center for christian teens that I went to for a summer program last year, and will attend this year as well. There, the people in charge strive to install chilvary in the young men by having them always open doors and even pull out the chairs for the ladies at mealtimes. It’s wonderful, and makes one feel so special!

P.S. I am waiting for pictures as well!

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ShelleyMariee
Posted June 3, 2006 at 7:33 PM | Permalink
I’m really glad many of us have stories about chivilrous gentlemen:-)

I went to a college for a year where men were taught to open the door for women. It was quite humorous at times, because often, a line of women would be coming out of a building, and the door-holding gentleman would hold the door for a long time! Thankfully, another guy would come along in the stream of people and take over for awhile;-) I was always really thankful for those guys who were willing to stand awhile.

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Olivia
Posted June 4, 2006 at 10:48 AM | Permalink
I figured that the numbers for Monday and Tuesday would be really high. I know I checked a gazillion times. )

I haven’t read the article on their blog yet… but yes gentelmanly gestures are a wonderful thing. I always try to make sure that if someone holds the door open for me that I thank them. This is just another area that we can emphasize our God-given roles.

Anxiously awaiting the story and pictures of the wedding!

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Merissa
Posted June 4, 2006 at 3:37 PM | Permalink
I was just reading a book about the Titanic. Which provoked some thoughts related to this topic. “Women and Children first.” That was the cry on that fateful night. Some women obeyed, others chose to stay with thier husbands. Although there were a few exceptions, most of the men encouraged the women to get on a lifeboat and leave them behind. It seems to me that was the ultimate demonstration of gentlemanly behavior. I think if I had been there I’d have felt horribly guilty to get on when so many were left behind, and yet in order to honour thier sacrifices wouldn’t you have to obey? I don’t know. Just some thoughts.

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Katie
Posted June 4, 2006 at 7:56 PM | Permalink
Just had to say I enjoyed this conversation. =) I’ll refrain from adding my own tales, but state that I agree–acting like a lady encourages gentlemanliness. And I love being treated like a lady.
Thanks, Natalie. =)

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Anonymous
Posted June 5, 2006 at 12:52 PM | Permalink
Thanks for the post Natalie!

I was thinking about this recently when I went to take my Dad coffee and a glass of water. There are three doors in between the kitchen and his office and my man, who was with me, opened and closed each one. Of course I couldn’t do it myself and so I just thanked him. Later, when getting my Dad a refill, I had a hand free and when my man followed me to get the door I started to say “That’s alright, I can…” He just smiled charmingly, but stubbornly, and said no, I couldn’t.
He helps us in his way, we help him in ours. Wouldn’t we ladies feel slighted if our efforts were pushed aside? If he “can’t” make his own cookies or mend his own shirts, than it makes sense that we “can’t” open our own doors or pull out our own chairs. A wonderful older lady friend of mine often says that your being selfish if someone wants to help you and you don’t let them. In that case, with the back of our hands pressed to our brows, we certainly can’t open that impossibly heavy door!

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Jessica
Posted June 5, 2006 at 6:40 PM | Permalink
In that case, with the back of our hands pressed to our brows, we certainly can’t open that impossibly heavy door!

I’ll have to remember that one…! But in all seriousness…your comment, especially the part that your “older lady friend” told you, is SO true! I really have to be careful of that myself because (and this applies to anyone, not just men) I feel bad that they have to help me and I should be helping them…but I’m really just being selfish and taking away their chance to serve. Thank you for the reminder!

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Anonymous
Posted October 19, 2007 at 11:51 AM | Permalink
Great article, thank you, it really made me think. I’m going to catch myself the next time I start to say “I can do it myself!!”


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